Posts by Pete Zahut

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Todays WT, study with worldy kids if you can

by purrpurr in

according to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in.

the wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.. the wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.. ...

in what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children?

Pete Zahut

This posts reminds me of an older sister in our Hall who studied with a young boy. The parents finally allowed him to go to a meeting with her one Sunday. During the meeting, someone threw a rock through the window above his seat and the falling glass cut his ear. The poor older sister had to take the kid home and explain what happened.

The kid never came to another meeting and the study ended but I'm sure there are plenty of parents out there who think a kid should have some kind of religion in their life but don't know how to go about it themselves. If someone came to their door offering them a free bible study for their kid, they'd jump at the chance to get him or her off their hands for a few hours. Especially an overwhelmed single parent.

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There is always one!

by Isambard Crater in

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i am pimo but attended the r.c yesterday for family pressure reasons.

a "sister" i've not seen for a while told me her husband is overjoyed because a man he called on recently in the field service suddenly told him he wanted to attend the r.c.

the unusual thing is, this man is a millionaire having built a property portfolio.

Pete Zahut

The unusual thing is, this man is a millionaire having built a property portfolio. He is about 60 and his life seems sorted, so why the hell would this type of person want to go to a convention named "Don't Give Up!", which in itself sounds really creepy

Maybe he sees a group of people who are "ripe for the picking" for his next real estate marketing scheme.

Tom Cruise and his kind, are millionaires but they got mixed up in Scientology anyway.

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wardrobe for tony M?

by road to nowhere in

do you think it would be a good idea to take a collection to buy a zoot suit for tm?

and some orange and green socks.. i also would like to find a way to make a shadow screen to put in the door to answer it when they come by.

don't forget the odd accent..

Pete Zahut

It's hard to get pants and hats that fit properly when you have a broad waist and a narrow mind.

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opportunity for fornication

by road to nowhere in

ever see brother ugly who is 86 being taken to the doctor by sister frigid who is 65 and also not good looking?

they have to have a chaperone or at least sit in back and front seats.

or a man who can't bring the freezing daughter in the house when he stopped briefly by because hubby is not home.

Pete Zahut

I think a lot of people's morality depends upon the opportunities that come their way

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JWs shunning other active JWs

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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how many others have noticed how common it is for active jws to ostracize and shun other active jws?

as far back as i can recall, jws have had an ongoing problem with cliques within congregations, and special needs talks would be given from time to time to address that trend.

but, it seems to me that the practice has become even more pronounced with entire congregations actively shunning other congregations.

Pete Zahut

I think JW's are just like anyone else. Certain personalities tend to attract others and people naturally gravitate toward those who have commonalities or similar personality traits.

The difference is, JW's boast about how "different" they are and how much "love" they have among themselves. They set you up to expect more from them than they can actually deliver. This high expectation level is hard to live up to and people continually disappoint one another. In a culture where it's OK to shun anyone who is doing wrong in your eyes, it's easy to carry it over toward those who have simply disappointed us as well.

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Anyone recall someone disfellowshipped for gluttony???

by James Mixon in

gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???

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Pete Zahut

I visited a K Hall in West Palm Beach Florida a few years ago and the Circuit Overseer was visiting. He was morbidly obese, I'm guessing 5'10 or maybe less and well over 300 lbs wearing what had to be specially made suits. He looked like he was about to explode.

He gave a talk that highlighted the weeks activities and then started talking about how much Jehovah's people "loooove to eat, yes we looove to eat don't we friends?" He went on to mention how anyone could tell his favorite part of his visits are sharing meals with the friends. (he patted his giant stomach as he said this) everyone chuckled as if it were the cutest thing they'd ever heard.

I couldn't help think about gluttony and how that topic is completely ignored when obviously there were plenty of JW's with eating disorders (bless them) that needed help and understanding and a good example rather than having a dangerously overweight man, making light of his own problem.

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What is Ibid?

by Belladonna75 in

hi all, i'm diving deep into historical jw literature research and i keep seeing ibid as a frequently cited source - what is this?

i've tried the old google, but no luck.

does this stand for something (i'm probably missing something incredibly obvious) or have i spent too many hours reading 1930s the golden age magazines and depleted all my electrons already?

Pete Zahut

I had a nagging suspicion it was something ridiculously obvious to everyone else

I'm glad you asked Belladonna 75....I hadn't encountered the term before and now I'll know what it is, when I do.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

Pete Zahut

Would Almighty God have allowed this group of Christians to champion his name at this crucial time if they did not enjoy his blessings and support ?

The "importance of his name" is just another trumped up JW belief where connect the dot scriptures are used to prove it's importance. When you read the verses and chapters around the scriptures they use, you'll find that once again, they've created an issue that doesn't exist.
If his name is so vitally important it seems as if he'd have revealed it's true pronunciation along with all the other supposed important "revelations" he made to them (important revelations that were later changed when time bore them out to be wrong).
The early Christians weren't called Jehovah's Witnesses. Why would that be so important now?
Isn't it considered disrespectful for children to call their father (or anyone else they are in subjection to) , by his first name?
Since "No one knows the day nor the hour" why is this time period any more "crucial" than any other ?
What proof is there that they are "enjoying" his blessings and support? It seems to me that if the God of the universe were blessing them, they'd have had the job done by now and they wouldn't have gotten it wrong so many times.

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JW Kids Bullying My Daughter

by pale.emperor in

trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).

my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.

that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.

Pete Zahut

This just makes my blood boil....kids can be pretty black and white and unfeeling toward other children but in this instance this is purely a reflection of what they've heard from their JW parents.

It seems to me, it's this kind of behavior that demonstrates that JW's are just another religion with a "form" of godly devotion but proving false to it's power. They are more interested in feeling morally superior and extra virtuous over your ex and daughter, than they are in being kind and "Christ like". Who could be that cold to a little child?

I wouldn't be surprised of this puts your ex one step closer to the exit door, for good.

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Lessons learned from the wife of lot drama

by purrpurr in

the video drama shown at the recent comvention was called "the wife of lot".

i noticed some stuble lessons being taught in this soap opera style video.... firstly, all the bad influence comes from women, its the wife and the mother in law whose pushing for more money and a better lifestyle.

while the men remain loyal to god, can't show the men going astray now can we?.

Pete Zahut

They made a point of taking off the shoes to show how Oafish the worldly guy was in comparison to the soft spoken and oh so patient Witnesses man and how clean, pristine and unsullied by the outside world, their home was.

Most people I know kick their shoes off at the front door, this isn't a JW or Asian thing only. As per usual, JW's think the have the market cornered when it comes to knowing how to live and behave decently. They love to compare themselves to the worst examples out there so they can paint every non JW, with the same broad brush.

The sickening thing about that video was how manipulative it was. Subtle things such as the harshness of the wife's makeup and the change in the color of the daughter's hair, were all very intentional. I'm guessing the average JW (especially the younger ones) picked up on this.

Most people resent being manipulated and JW's are no different.